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Old 07-04-2010, 09:16
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I am having a problem with the loops keeping shape when I starch them. Maybe they arent right when I do to them, some o them come out and some dont. Any Ideas??? I like the 1st two they arent so bad, but the last three lost their shape when I starched and baked them.
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Old 07-04-2010, 05:22
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I am having a problem with the loops keeping shape when I starch them. Maybe they arent right when I do to them, some o them come out and some dont. Any Ideas??? I like the 1st two they arent so bad, but the last three lost their shape when I starched and baked them.
Hmmm...the first one looks upside down - like we're seeing the back of the bow. The others - I'm not sure. Starching & baking shouldn't change the shape - it should just set the shape in place so it seem like the loops weren't quite right to begin with. Wait - if you sprayed them so much they were soggy they might droop, maybe try just a light spray of starch next time.
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I agree that the first is the back of the bow. I think almost all of us started out doing that - I know I have SEVERAL of my first bows where I used the back instead of the front. As for the others, it looks like the top and bottom part of your x (where the center knot is) is being pulled backward. They looked curved toward the back of the bow which would cause your loops to curve back. If you can, get them to line with the rest of the middle and that should help to align your loops. I hope that what I am saying makes sense?!?

The twisted bow is difficult to figure out. There are posts on this forum all the time about different ways to do it. I like to use the figure 8 method, but don't tie them like I do the other bows I make. (hair-harware.com) I started sewing the middle and it works much better now. I make three stitches through the middle to get the valleys right.

ETA: I can take pics of what I am talking about when I get home if you want me to.
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Old 07-05-2010, 12:48
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I agree with above.... Starching and baking should not change the shape.... Maybe I could show you a trick I use the next time I see you.
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Thanks guys I will keep trying. When you make the stitches where do you make them. Gursy....sounds like a good idea. I use the 8 method also, I have tried the tie method and ewww weee they look bad. LOL
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Thanks guys I will keep trying. When you make the stitches where do you make them. Gursy....sounds like a good idea. I use the 8 method also, I have tried the tie method and ewww weee they look bad. LOL
I will take a pic and post. Mine aren't perfect yet, but they are vastly better since I stopped using the string to tie and started sewing.
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I will take a pic and post. Mine aren't perfect yet, but they are vastly better since I stopped using the string to tie and started sewing.
So when you sew it you dont have to tie it? I been doing both. LOL
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So when you sew it you dont have to tie it? I been doing both. LOL
I tie everything then go back through and sew to make sure they are secure. But, I figured out that the twisted are easier just to sew. Here are the pics. I hope you can understand through my bad pics...lol...

I do the figure 8 and then put it into the salon clip. I pull the loops to a good position....making sure the back is straight and even!!


I start with my needle at the back of the bottom and go through the front and make 3 stitches. I try to space them evenly, but it doesn't always work.


Then, I pull it tight making the valleys. I take the thread and wrap it two or three times around the whole bow. I take my needle down through the middle of the bow.


I arrange the valleys and pull it tighter or loosen it if needed. This is where I straighten it so the top and bottom doesn't curve backward. You can see in the first pic that they are pulled slightly back, and the second pic is straightened.


After all that, I tie the needle off!!...All done!!
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Great pics indeed! I would like to add one thing : make sure when you sew your stitches are VERY EVEN otherwise when you draw the thread to gather the center it'd affect the shape of your bow.

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I tie everything then go back through and sew to make sure they are secure. But, I figured out that the twisted are easier just to sew. Here are the pics. I hope you can understand through my bad pics...lol...

I do the figure 8 and then put it into the salon clip. I pull the loops to a good position....making sure the back is straight and even!!


I start with my needle at the back of the bottom and go through the front and make 3 stitches. I try to space them evenly, but it doesn't always work.


Then, I pull it tight making the valleys. I take the thread and wrap it two or three times around the whole bow. I take my needle down through the middle of the bow.


I arrange the valleys and pull it tighter or loosen it if needed. This is where I straighten it so the top and bottom doesn't curve backward. You can see in the first pic that they are pulled slightly back, and the second pic is straightened.


After all that, I tie the needle off!!...All done!!
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Great pics indeed! I would like to add one thing : make sure when you sew your stitches are VERY EVEN otherwise when you draw the thread to gather the center it'd affect the shape of your bow.
Thank you!! I find it hard to get the stitches even, but I do try. I should have done better for these pics, but I just whipped it together for the pics because it was getting late and I promised I would post them.
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