I am not good....but...I found that when I use the girly things version. after I make it I flatten the middle. making sure the "edges" are up (in the middle) then I put my first finger in the upper loop and my thumb in the lower loop and push them apart. I know that makes no sense at all I guess the best thing to say is just pull the crap out of the loops until they are where you want them. I know this hasn't helped but I wanted to try!