I have an esante by bablylock, paid $2000 used 7 years ago. it has the larger hoops which come in handy for a lot of projects. Love, love love it. I have more than paid for it, several times over, and i have a hard time charging people. there are places to get thread really cheap, i always get my stabalizer by the bolt with a 40% off coupon. the amazing box and embird- computer software, are both a must. i have paid for very few designs and fonts, most places have free designs to download. Let me know if you want any of these sites and i will make a list.