you girls are wonderful!! I will try these out tonight and let you all know but before I do let see if I really did get it LoL!
about the convertible: I don't knot the center just leave it flat and not put glue on the front just on the back and not to tight right?and I can add another loop for opposite clip not sure about this part.
and about the Marabou: is it just a circle with the ends together or do I swirl it abit and then join the end? cause I did that just without the ends together but when I would glue it to the clip it was a mess I will try to post a picture Thank God My Hubby got me a new camara for my bday so now I can post My Pictures
thanks for all your suggestions and sorry for so many questions