I personally like to use the clips that you can take the tension bar out. It really makes it easier to secure the bow to the clip. I have never had any complaints from people about there clips. You will find that some grosgrain ribbon is stiffer and thicker than others. Some is thin and very floppy when you are working with it. So I would go with what Mindy recommended when choosing ribbon. Glad you could join us. WELCOME!