That's good news! I was thinking about testing one out, but it takes so long to make the darn things curly...I was afriad i'd ruin it. I have noticed a few kinds of ribbon I have tried to bake didn't hold their curl very well for some reason...I dunno if i needed to bake them longer or what. It just got me thinking about it too much....and was curious how permanant the curl is........you girls answered my question. Thanks!!!