I believe the ones on the etsy site actually start out looking like large cabbage roses. I bought some at Hobby Lobby (they were about $5.99 each) which looked like that once I removed all of the plastic separators from betwen the petals.
I have some of the ones like you showed from Ali express. I bought them at The Hairbow Center (If I remember correctly!) They are nice, but not the same effect once the plastic inserts are out. They look more like this