I agree, group buys are the way to go. Personally I wouldn't deal directly with any China supplier, I see what the girls go through on here and unless your really experienced it can be a huge mess(even happens to the experienced ones).
Originally Posted by cackysanda
Honestly they're not really listed on here. People don't put that info out there for others to know. People take years to build up relationships with manufacturers. Group Buys are your best way to go.